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In my time at Dickinson I have listened to probably hundreds of white boys talk. It feels incessant. The list of what white boys think they are qualified to talk about is endless. Something very few of them seem to understand is that their ill-informed, uncritical opinions do not constitute truth. I cannot describe to you how frustrating it is to be forced to listen to a white boy explain his take on the Black experience in the Obama-era. In what world would your understanding of my life carry more weight than my understanding?
Unfortunately, it is this world, where white men debate the pain of other people for fun and then take away their rights. The second thing most white boys seem not to understand is that they do not exist separate from the rest of the world. You speak with the weight of policies and laws meant to forever define intelligence by how it measures up to the bros of America. Should we be forced to listen?
Go find someone whose perspective has been buried or ignored and listen to them, raise up their voice. To all the Chrises, Ryans, Olivers, and Seans out there, I encourage you to critically examine where your viewpoints come from, read a text that challenges you without looking for reasons to dismiss it, and maybe try listening from now on. Who will get space next on the editorial pages of The Dickinsonian? A Klansman? A gleeful misogynist? Is it meant to be a discussion piece? Is it meant to be social commentary?
Ignorant people have held them forever. Has the writer heard of the dangers of condemning all members of a group en masse? Now here she is embracing it in what can be only read as a racist rant that herds an entire group under an umbrella of hate. This article is inherently and horrifically racist. This article is horribly written, sounds appallingly uneducated, and has no merit. You are lumping a group of men together and racially stereotyping them. White or black. You argue that these white college boys only want to search for intellectual validation rather than exchanging new information.
This claim could not be more false. I must debunk your assertion that is is true, because the main reason why many people go to college in the first place is to have their views and ideas challenged and to expand their knowledge. I doubt a white boy who only wanted to have his belies reaffirmed would go to a liberal arts college. You also touch on the fact that American society tells only white men that their opinions are valid. First off, everyone in America is entitled to their own opinion. What makes America so great is our freedom of speech, whether that speech may go against common morals and values, we are all able to state our opinions in this country without persecution from the law.
Overall, your article is absolutely one of the most ignorant, unscholarly, and remarkably racist articles I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Did it ever occur to you that speaking in such generalizations — that ALL white males are ignorant and perpetuate institutional racism — is in itself racist? Sure, there are ignorant bigoted white males in nearly every college classroom. Get a grip. Brutal, unacceptable and socially irresponsible. To suggest one gender and ethnic group not be allowed their opinion in class is exactly what I thought to be the opposite perspective of the reform agenda, the opposite of what should be expected and the standards of the societal impact of the college experience.
All opinions should be heard, digested and debated — censuring one group because it does not fit my view is numbingly small minded. While Ms. Fisher has every right to her opinion, I find her argument extraneous and ponderous at best, ethnocentric at worst. White folk arguing the black experience? As a graduate of Dickinson, this makes me cringe.
I may disagree with what someone else says but I would never suggest that they not be allowed to have their opinions. I believe my opinions have merit because of what I have learned and studied not because I am white.
If I thought this writer was wrong I would disagree like I am here but would never make a generalization to a broader group, thats how we get into messes like this. This was an attack at all the white young men who help make Dickinson what it is, just like all of the other students, all of which are all entitled to their own opinions. Dickinson allowed such comments?
The author should be reported to Dean of students for her hateful speech. This is so messed up. A take of a black women telling white men tp close their mouth. If the roles were reversed this would be all over the news for racism. So twisted and unjust. While there is no excuse for anyone to shut down your voice, your call for oppression of a general racial group is mislead. I think we can both agree that racist ideologies should have no place in this country or anywhere , but please do not feel that you are unique to this subjection.
In the future, please be more specific in who you choose to insult. Not only is this editorial poorly written, it is an example of what the author is criticizing. I am college educated and have lived in the south and in Europe so I have been exposed to a variety of people. I have two sons — ages 26 and 17 — and none of their friends behave in the way that the author describes. Perhaps the students she is so angry with are simply participating in lively debate which is the purpose of attending college classes. She may learn and grow by positively interacting with these students rather that condemning them and shutting them out of her world.
While this is an opinion piece, I am surprised the editors of The Dickinsonian felt it was appropriate to publish. This article is garbage, racist, sexist BS. I will no longer consider making contributions to your college. This is exactly what is wrong in todays society, Freedom of speech is one thing, hateful garbage like this has no place in College.
I am sorry for your feelings of injustice and discrimination…I much rather read more stories of love than hate. I am a mother of a White boy who is attending Dickinson and also the mother of 4 other white boys. I have taught them to not judge people by their color, creed, financial status or difference in opinion. I am glad we live in a country where all are free to express their opinion.
I have challenged my white boys to change your opinion of them. Reading your article makes me sad. You see, I am a professional woman who, through hard work and determination has overcome gender and socioeconomic obstacles during times when women were forced to take home-ec classes in school and expected to wear skirts to work. My generation worked hard to pave the way for young women to have the same if not, better opportunities as young men today, regardless of race or socioeconomic status.
Trust me, it was not easy. What pulled me up, Leda, were the women who were successful before me. I watched them work hard, and most importantly, carry themselves with grace in the face of adversity regardless of who was responsible. Maybe you were not aware when you enrolled at Dickinson College that the cornerstone of a liberal arts education is empowering students to deal with diversity and change.
These are the mothers who, through their fight and sacrifice, have made it possible for you to have the freedom to write this article. Your blanket condemnation of their children is a slap in the face. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. This missive is nothing short of an angry, shallow, defenceless and pitiful rant that makes it clear that the author lacks the intellectual capacity for perspective, debate, rationality and self-respect.
If you ever want to have a real job in journalism, that generates a respectable following, may I suggest that you turn the volume down and get a real education. The writer is contracting herself. She wants free speech and expression only for people that share her background. This country is far past the time when voices are silenced. This alone negates her argument. This is one of the most racist writings I have ever read. This person is talking about taking rights away from a specific group.
This sounds oddly familiar. The school should be promoting open communication and freedom of speech not hatred or disdain for a specific group. God does not like ugly. This is one of the most hatefully biased articles against young white men that I have ever read. Your school should be ashamed of itself for printing this garbage that willfully bashes white kids.
One would think a lesson was learned after the incident with the Covington boys, but apparently the blatant hatred and reverse racism against boys based on their skin color is something your school approves of. How disgusting that your institution pushes crap like this to infest the minds of our children. No wonder this country so screwed up. I am a junior in Highschool and I honestly think that this is disgusting. The fact that you allowed this to be in your college newspaper is a disgrace.
If a white person wrote this, it would be racist. I am an Irish American and how dare you say I should not have a voice. How dare you say that my voice is any less important than yours. I am an honors student with multiple clubs, and I also maintain a 4. This is disgraceful and I will never look at your school. I guess I am just another white boy, but you just lost an applicant to your school.
As a mother of white Dickinson student I find this article highly racist and offensive. Unless, of course, the school agrees with alienating a large portion of the student body. He has learned to stand tall and speak his mind. I will always have his back. Not saying that there are not kids like this out there because there are.
But, no every white boy at Dickinson is a full paying, prep school, daddy money moron. This is one of the most obnoxious, racist articles ever, and I am embarrassed to admit I am an alum. I have donated thousands and thousands of dollars over the years. With each passing year, I have become more disenfranchised with the direction that the Dickinson administration has chosen.
This article is the icing on the cake! Dickinson should be ashamed to allow such garbage to be printed. What ever happened to objectivity, tolerance and open-mindedness? The blanket statements made are not accurate except for perhaps some small microcosm, the likes of which I can not possibly see being applicable to the students at Dickinson. It sounds like you need to get into the real world, and be socially open to interactions with people of many cultures, many races, many religions.
If your hatred does not blind you, then it would not take long for you to realize that among any given large group, there is a very broad range of attitudes, biases, insecurities, work ethics and other traits. In life, we should all be both student and teacher if we hope to make positive changes, to make the world a better place. Fostering hate and bigotry has no upside; it is destructive to society and ultimately to yourself. Shame on Dickinson College. Their inability to accept critique from any angle and to bash with irrelevant keywords only proves this more and more right.
The fact that this was allowed to be published at Dickinson, is absolutely disgusting. Freedom of speech should be broad, but the author crossed the line. Way over the line! Dickinson stands where on such vitriol. Acceptible behavior? I stand for these oppressed White Boys, particularly those harboring conservative tendencies. Please, someone set aside a safe space for them, as they clearly are the most oppressed minority on campus! When will we learn that identifying individuals by race, orientation, gender, or otherwise is about as narrow minded a view as one could have.
How embarrassing for you to write something so hateful and awful. You people are freakin nuts…deranged…and VILE. MLK fought to end segregation… and now you lunatics want to segregate again. Yes, there would be a great deal of outrage if this article was written by a white boy about black women. Consider, however, that this article was written by a black woman about white boys and STILL is receiving a ridiculous amount of outrage. This piece of writing is a black woman expressing a frustration she has with society. The voice of a white boy is valued more in so many situations.
In addition, white boys have a tendency to believe we know everything. But I should experience that, at least to some degree. White boys like myself have zero firsthand experience with the life of a black woman, so it would only make sense to shut up and listen every now and then. We want people to think what we say is correct more than we actually want it to be correct. Who cares? This is an article in a college newspaper. There are a LOT of things that are genuinely poorly written. My grandfather was the President of Dickenson for 14 years. His name was Howard Lane Rubendall.
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They welcomed the Black Panthers into their home to hear their grievances during the Civil Rights movement. They worked hard for integration, civil rights and equality on the campus of Dickenson in Carlisle. They assisted in maintaining a peaceful and productive counter revolution on the Campus of Dickenson. I see bitterness and anger from someone who is privileged enough to go to a school and receive an education out of the price range and realm of possibility for most Americans. I hear an unreasonable anger and hatred for others, and I see a slap in the face to those who participated in and fought an epic struggle in the Civil Rights Movement of the 20th Century.
The stunning level of blatant bigoted racist rhetoric contained in this sickening glimpse into the mind of someone who puts gender and race ahead of all reason is another example of the failure of our education system. This is the stupidest thing I ever heard from this community! In fact, I barely see valid reasoning in the article but rather ramblings based on emotion. They indulged this as they genocided million Russians in gulags in the Russian Revolution. I think it is a poorly written article about the same topic every other clickbait site and trashy feminist YouTube channel has been talking about for years, but it is fun seeing so many people get mad over this.
Not even a little bit. You were so caught up in the fact that for once white people are being called out on their bs specifically white men. Good luck with your lives of ignorance. I find this article very surprising. After sitting through a recruiting event last summer I am surprised that it was not signed by the administration.
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Fire her. If this was satire sure. What would have happened if a white person said this about other races? From seeing the other comments it appears many would support signing a position to have her expelled. But time is moving forwards, not backwards. How will we all adjust to these cultural changes? To the writer,leda jane kolbowski fisher- no group should be silenced.. Ive literally heard tomi lahren say these things verbatum except change white boy to muslims. The editorial board of The Dickinsonian is squarely to blame for this.
I sincerely hope the president and the board take the editor to task. How truly embarrassing. The Dickinson experience should foster open debate, not quiet resentment. If a student of any background has an opinion in a classroom setting that you disagree with, challenge it- this is a fundamental aspect of taking people out of their comfort zones and changing perceptions. Our classrooms should foster diverse dialogue, which is hard in the first place because Dickinson is admittedly not the most diverse campus in the US.
Even more of a reason why you need to share your opinions and challenge the status quo in an open, moderated forum. Quietly seething over 4 years and letting it out in an extremely biased piece is not the way to make progress. Disgusting articles like these only fuels White Supremacy groups. Gives them the ammo they want and need to grow,. This is a great article that chronicles that black experience from multiple different lenses. It describes the unfortunate reality of black women.
I think we as a community should be ashamed that we actually feel triggered by this to downplay the argument that is presented. It rather attempts to tolerate race which is most spaces in America. For the people in this section that feels targeted, attacked, or ashamed Dickinson has failed you.
However, Dickinson cannot take full responsibility for this, so in many ways you have failed yourself. It is important that you take a chance to accept the privilege that you do have and use it for positive change. Tighten up! What I think, and while this is only my opinion, is that we should focus more on listening to everyone in the room, giving everyone a chance to speak not just the loudest voices. And lastly… to the editor at the Dickinson who agreed to publish this piece?
What were you thinking? As an alum, Dickinson continues to disappoint me. So why is this student author treated differently for making such sweeping generalizations? THAT is the purpose of a liberal arts education and should be the standard that Dickinson strives to achieve. This article is garbage and should never have been published. I wish the author luck in the real world. Would the author of this article stick up for my right to free speech. Well done at exposing the consequences of pursuing identity politics and the new definition of racism to its logical conclusions.
To all of the ignorant white people commenting on this article: calm down. Fist and foremost, please, for the love of god, educate yourselves on what racism is. You cannot switch this relationship and have the results manifest in the same way. It is economic, it is social. It is taught to our children through TV, Movies, and schools. How can you blame her? It is statistically proven that black people face more and longer prison sentences, face extreme income inequality in comparison to whites, and encounter gentrification, violence, and extreme difficulties in the work force.
And lastly, if this article has made you want to stop donating to Dickinson, fantastic. On a positive note, if anyone needs the most compelling argument for the abject waste that is the real tradgedy of the student loan crisis in America, this author is it!! The author of this piece of garbage is a pathetic race baiter. I believe the administration needs to rethink its hiring process for the job. Wow these comments are unbelievable yet somehow really not surprising. If you are so offended, maybe ask yourself why you specifically are so offended by this opinion article.
Like Katherine said in a previous comment, this author sounds frustrated, and tired from yelling so loud. I also feel for her. Listen to her instead of getting your panties in a bunch. Dialogue is always good, so from that perspective this article was effective. Some constructive critisism:. This may have been a better read if you dove into a specific example of when a Brad or Chad behaved this way and how it made you feel.
Take us through a journey or story and make us feel angry with you you. Some white boys are better off than others by the way. What an embarrassment to the Dickinson community, current students and alumni, this racist diatribe, its author, and the sycophants that mange this publication are! But, on a positive note, if anyone needs the most compelling example of the real tragedy that is the abject waste driving the student loan crisis in America, Leda has provided it; thank you Leda!!
Just think of all the ways the tens of thousands of dollars of student aid that have been squandered on Leda could have been productively employed on campus: new cushions for the chairs in the dining hall, higher quality toilet paper in campus restrooms, re-painting old metal trash cans Dickinson red, etc. Lastly, to President Ensign et al. Ahhh… just another undergrad girl vagsplaining to society in what direction her phobias are taking her.
It is clear that the author is very frustrated. Thank you for your article, people are taking it the wrong way. Also fyi to previous commenters, it is conceptually impossible for a black person to be racist by the central definition of the word. Listen to other classmates, it might open your mind a little bit. The Onion could not put out more satirical nonsense. And I resent the HELL out of my tax money, taken from doing real work, goes to race-baiters like this woman and the institution that ostentatiously teaches overt, celebratory racism to students like her.
I have to say, that these reactions are sadly expected because the article is addressing a problem that most minorities have faced on campus and are somehow defended by mostly white people. The article is addressing a real problem of people in power dictating the experiences and thoughts of underrepresented groups, both on campus, in society and in politics. Do you see that your comments are the exact reason that she needs to write this article? POC experiences have been attacked and invalidated for so long, and your comments prove that white experiences and fragility are somehow placed above our lived experiences and thoughts.
Can you not even sit down once, shut up and listen, instead of trying to tell her how to behave and think? Do you see the hypocrisy? I think the author accomplished her objective — she got everyone thinking about whether the opinions of one group are privileged over those of other groups and whether members of some groups are not really interested in dialogue and in listening to what others have to say.
Leda, you should really consider your words before you speak your mind again…you deserve all this backlash that will be coming your way. As a white male alum I cannot offer enough support to Leda for the courage to write this. It is unfortunate that the editorial board saw fit to publish a rant rather than a coherent opinion. It is also unfortunate that the author was not provided with some useful peer editing and constructive criticism to help make a clear argument. Instead we have an incendiary collection of words which neither makes a useful point nor provides pause for those the author attacks.
This is not the college which helped me expand my horizons through reading many works and learning to write in a critical manner while being respectful of the other side. What are your first principles? Rising above hate or wallowing in it? I pray that this person can overcome her pain and forgive anyone who has hurt her just as God will forgive her. I pray this woman repents of her sins and accepts our lord Jesus Christ as her savior.
I say this prayer in the precious name of Jesus. All you trashy scummy white girls acting like teachers pet when they try and side with our race and fight their brothers. Go ,back to where you inferor barbie girls belong —with your worthless white men. Did you think you could escape your racism and guilt by attacking your own race?.
I am so glad that there are students like Leda at Dickinson. The fact that this article is receiving such push back is evidence of how badly it was needed. It would be really great if people would spend more energy being upset that these power imbalances exist, rather than being angry at the person who merely pointed them out. The reactions to this article are yet more clear evidence that Dickinson needs to step up the diversity of its curriculum requirements. I am very curious about the specific repercussions the author experienced when trying to speak her own mind in classes at Dickinson college.
She is implying that she was drowned out by the white men trying to offer their opinions and was thus diminished. Is this really true? Are the Dickinson professors allowing groups of white men to run roughshod over minority groups in classroom discussions? If so, I put the blame squarely on them as they are the ones being paid to preside over their classrooms in an equitable manner. If they are allowing the white boys to be intellectual bullies in their classrooms and quashing input from others then shame on them for letting this happen.
All this time I was thinking that the college was a pretty inclusive place where all opinions were welcome and that just because someone had a dissenting opinion did not mean that this disqualified them from participation. It is not the same for a member of a historically persecuted minority group to be critical of the majority as it is for a member of a historically powerful group to be critical of the minority.
White people and black people have not had the same experience in this country. Call it institutionalized racism or not, this country was built by white people at the expense of people of color. This means that the dynamics that govern what is or is not acceptable cannot be the same regardless of race. It seems like everyone agrees that it would not be appropriate or acceptable for a white student to write an article like this about black students.
But why? We understand that racism is inherently rooted an unequal power dynamic. So — it is not the same for a member of a persecuted class to criticize the majority as it is for a member of the majority to criticize a member of the persecuted class. Equality is not the same as equity. I thought this community was better and smarter than that. I agree wit you girl. Outrageously racist. As a once proud alumn, I am now embarrassed and ashamed to have been a part of a community that would allow something like this to be posted. Thank you for speaking up about your experience.
I support you. I have had to interact with all kinds of folks of various creeds, races, colors, socioeconomic upbringing, etc. I recommend the author step back and think about the same advice given to me over 30 years ago. While this editorial left me shaking my head for several reasons, the many thoughtful responses to it encouraged me, giving hope that dialogue can endure and we have objective thinkers in the community who are not afraid to be silenced regardless of their creed, color, or gender.
Who needs a resume when you can spout drivel like this? The job offers should be pouring in…. I am empathetic to the experience at Dickinson which is of a particular, significantly non-diverse, demographic, but this is just a lazy, and ironically entitled, temper tantrum.
This argument You absolutely have the right to free speech and to write such inarticulate, poorly argued tripe, and we as alumni have the right to not read it, but here we are, all of us reading away together. I am less disgusted with the sheer myopia of this topic of this article, which, although valid, seems to be derived from either a Tweet or a meme, and its complete lack of grounding in any kind of substance. The slang used and the redacted profanity not only diminish the argument they obliterate it, leaving it back to where it started as a lazy, ill-conceived attempt to riff of a viral post on social media.
Read a book! Great piece! Keep writing, Leda! One question I have is where do we draw the line? What about physics? The point of this column is that we white men of privilege frequently speak very loudly and proudly about topics outside of our sphere of experience. The reaction to this piece absolutely is proving exactly what the author was stating. Maybe we should be listening to the experience and frustration behind this point rather than forming a mob around the author. Dickinson has never done well in attracting racial diversity.
As a woman in the IT sector, I know a lot about getting talked over by a parade of mostly white men. But it is never ok to shove an entire group of people into a drawer based on any common characteristic. Not race, not sex, not age, not sexual orientation. Does the author have legitimate grievances and points? Is this article a result of years of frustration boiling over? Very likely. Is the answer a blanket condemnation of white males? Of course not. Making such a generalization would deny a group of people the opportunity to contribute and engage in society based on the color of their skin and their sex.
The solution to a profound injustice is not to suddenly inflict that injustice on the former perpetrators. Do better. In my experience this is how everyone operates. Everyone wants to share their opinion on everything. Everyone wants to find reasons to reject opinions that are not their own, and everyone thinks that their opinions are original, when really they were created by someone else long ago.
So by your standard no one should be allowed to talk. What a bunch of dopes. Who listens to these spoiled children? As a woman of color who graduated from Dickinson, I can relate to your experience. This is obviously a young lady who is frustrated and in pain.
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However, the fact is, so many of you are doing the very same thing you vehemently highlight as ludicrous. What a shame and shame on you. This is one opinion. Higher education hinges on civil discourse. Take it in.
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Why do we have to read articles written by an utter clueless dingbat? Obviously, the author has an inferiority complex. And why not? White men have invented virtually every important concept, product, innovation, etc. Modern medicine, modern science, modern literature, etc. Cars, jets, microwaves, nuclear weapons, life-saving medicines, chemotherapy, etc. Additionally, white men are responsible for creating the most powerful country in world history the U. With the exception of the disposable douche, the traffic light, and race riots, is there anything that women or non-white men have invented?
So my message to this dingbat is: Shut the blank up. We are tired of hearing from you. Yes, white men roll their eyes at AOC because she and her followers are complete fools. BTW, when you wake up at age 35 unmarried, no kids, and on anti-depressants, just remember that the feminists told you to live your life the way you are living it now. Black or white, opinions are equally valid. Except yours. Yours is garbage. Leda — This came across to me as a vulnerable, honest piece.
Doing so is something white women like myself have a history of doing at the expense of women of color. There is a lot to be learned from the emotions this piece clearly evokes in readers. I hope anyone who reads this will do so multiple times, and reflect on rather than deny the truth of your experience. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for this article Leda. I never understood why, I barely knew him. Since I was raised across the globe and always attended international schools, my approach to making friends lacked criteria. Anyway, I think most people who are angry with your article have missed the point….
This social injustice was not something I was remotely interested in addressing, and I never cared to bring up this issue with anyone. We live in a society where blacks, queers and women are still oppressed…. Black people are not a monolith in political affiliation or experience. This piece is what happens when the level of analysis being hammered into students is the dichotomy of oppressor vs. And the Dickinson faculty are complicit in this, if not the catalyst. Though Leda is free to express her opinions, I believe the long term consequence of such narratives being pushed within coastal liberal arts colleges is their own eventual demise.
Look at Evergreen State. My fellow commenters: Whatever the author may or may not be, whatever she has written or merely believed, be wary of the social lynch mob. Every time a prospective employer Googles her name, every time she applies for a scholarship or award, every time someone meets her for the first time on campus, every acquaintance or significant other looking to learn more about her… they will find this. How terrifyingly sad. She used hateful, discriminatory speech that the editor should have culled with more argument and substance. These are wrongs. But what misfortune to have felt so much discrimination and sadness in her own life.
How overwhelming must her anger be to blind her to the humanity of her fellow students and the irony of her own argument? And how devastating that these mistakes of her youth — along with the anger that prompted them — will follow her now and forever. I pray for peace for her. She deserves our pity. She has mine. As an alumnae, I am appalled by this article moreso as the mother of a white boy.
The author can certainly express her opinion, but to print this opinion in this forum, the college is lending legitimacy to this point of view. Can you imagine the Dickinsonian printing a similar piece if the author were a white male, and he was speaking of black women the same way? Not to mention, the generalization is totally unfair. Extremely disappointed with this piece.. This is an Opinion piece. She writes her opinion. You can disagree but I think the kernel is that she is asking us to examine our white privilege.
Further she is asking white men to examine their privilege. Her frustration is clear. Too many knee jerk reactions here in the comment section. Which tells me that many of you need to examine your white privilege. Ignorant and disturbing. Our satirical website Testing Newsdays has responded accordingly. I have never been so embarrassed to have graduated from Dickinson College in my life that they would publish such a racist article!!!
Fragile egos, thinking so highly of themselves. You should do exactly as suggested and listen to some other perspectives before wasting your time on feigned indignation and outrage. The author has in no way oppressed you; she has challenged you to think. Most of you are failing the challenge and using the article as an excuse to spout some thinly-veiled racism and apples-to-oranges whattaboutism. Good luck to you, precious snowflakes. Black people are not a monolith in either political affiliation or experience. Though Leda is free to express her opinions, the consequence of such narratives being pushed by coastal liberal arts colleges is their own eventual demise.
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I am a Dickinson Alumni and I am so proud to say that. I am proud that Dickinson admits and has platforms for students such as Leda to express themselves and challenge our ways of thinking and conducting ourselves. I am proud that through my time at Dickinson the community helped me grow from someone who reacted negatively to expressions like this to someone who can see its incredible complexities while understanding how I am part of the problem being discussed and how I can try and change that.
Thank you very much, Leda, for bravely challenging the status quo with your thought-provoking article. People are sick and tired of the incessant finger-wagging, scolding, and shaming by these ungrateful, hateful, privileged spoiled brats who have had nothing but doors of opportunity held open for them by others whose shoelaces they are unfit to tie. Print it! Leda speaks the truth; so sorry for all the privileged and fragile white people whose feelings are hurt by her piece.
When I see these comments from alums and students, I am reassured that my decision not steer my son away from applying to Dickinson was correct. Not much has changed since I graduated almost 25 years ago. Its the comments such as Lara Dunkelberg defense of this writer that disturbs me even more than the original piece. The dehumanizing of groups by societies is what has lead to the worst of human atrocities and behaviors…. But we must be consistent and call out all such hateful, dehumanizing speech directed towards any group being defined by immutable qualities such as race and gender.
So Dickinson, will you treat this kind of speech consistently? So have your been, are you being consistent? I wanna be totally straightforward with you… You will never, in a million years, get a job at a publication as prestigious as the New York Times. That little pipe-dream is never gonna happen.
You will be blogging and tweeting until you are dead, and nobody will care. And you will neeeever get a job at the New York Times. I hope you let go of your hatred and get your emotions in balance with your rationality. They will be unifying and constructive, not divisive and derisive.
You sound very passionate, and your passion transfers to the reader. Thus, the ocean of passionate responses. I wish some of the responses were not so cruel. If you read them carefully you will see a lot of pain and some anger, probably on some level what you wanted your readers to feel. But you also in most cases hit an artery. If you want to bring about change and be TRULY heard you need to learn how to be more diplomatic and you need to consider the impact of your words and actions. If you are going full force like you are here, no one will hear your message because they will be so wrapped up in their own feelings.
No one feels good and no one wins. Let this be a learning experience for you. Keep writing. Keep learning. Keep being true to yourself and who you are but learn how to manipulate your public with a little more finess, so they welcome your ideas with open arms and not turn their backs at them. I sure hope prospective employers are able to Google this young ladys name when she is looking for a job and find her enlightened views. Hey Leda! I think your article was great and well called for! All of these people above are painfully ignorant and clearly uneducated about what racism entails and how deeply and systemically racism exists in our society and how it is basically the foundation of every major institution in the US.
Just wanted to comment because I really enjoyed this article as a white person and think its ridiculous that other white people are calling it racist. Keep up the good fight! There are people out there who are fighting too! Everyone above needs to chill and check their privilege. Dont let them get to you!!! This is an awesome article.
In a few short paragraphs you have managed to distill the total and complete intellectual bankruptcy of modern black, but particularly modern black liberal thought. In your feeble mind, everything is measured only through the lens of race. Thoughts, concepts and principles have no intrinsic merit to you. As a human being, I am saddened. As a black man, I am embarrassed. You do not deserve a diploma. Go back to school. I wonder if this article created any positive value in the race discussion at Dickinson.
Moreover, I wonder if, perhaps, the Office of Student Conduct should expect a rash of complaints. Respect is earned, not demanded. As a year old child with a liberal arts degree that means next to nothing in the real world, I can understand why. Anyone who is not a white male can likely relate to the core of her message. Privilege can be so innate that it is unrecognized by the beholder. Should white boys still be allowed to talk? Sure they should. But, they should think about what they are saying, where they are coming from, and how their words impact those around them. I am a black man who was the first in my family to get a professional degree.
I am a lawyer and specialize in child support recovery from deadbeat dads. Stop using racism as a crutch or excuse for your own bad choices. There is no doubt racism exists. You have a problem with the state of Black America? Black people should look in the mirror. For everyone saying this article is unscholarly, do your own damn research.
Michelle Obama says the same gist of this article in her book. It is not her job to teach you nor to conform to the academic tone of voice that you all so desparately need before anything seems credible to you. Its not her job to provide the scholarly resources. Read the racist diaries of Christopher Columbus and countless other white men who profited from literal black bodies and learn to appreciate the precedent that their sadistic work has left and is still practiced today. Maybe read her history for a change? This woman has an absolute right to be heard, and anyone who thinks the Dickinsonian should not publish her views is not a supporter of our first amendment.
The woman is expressing her rage as a black woman on the black experience, and maybe some white people cannot comprehend that. I believe that is what President Ensign suggested in her letter on Facebook today. It seems like there will be days ahead planned that will make Dickinson better. Anyone offended by this post or claiming that it is as bad as something written by a Klansmen can personally eat my ass.
So glad I graduated and am not at this embarrassment of an institution anymore. I get that intrinsic oppression drives this kind of emotional response, and I hope we see the end of the kind of social phenomenon youre describing in our lifetime. Not sure this route is effective, but if it helps people process their emotions from the crazy traumatizing world we live in, so be it.
Sorry for spewing that all over the place from my position of privilege, im working on it. I see Dickinson is intent on becoming the next Evergreen. Gross and offensive to allow such intolerance in I am inspired by this. Inspired that as a Black woman you have taken the power to tell us about your experience being in a predominantly white institution. As a first year student, who identifies as a Latina, I cannot express how enraged it makes me to read comments about ignorance and self victimization when all you did was demand that voices of color be elevated.
Please continue to express your concerns, it does not just stop here. No one can invalidate your lived experiences, no one can take away your power. Thank-you, Leda, for writing this. Good work, Dickinsonian editorial staff, for publishing. The best parts of my Dickinson experience were those in which I intentionally engaged with people from different backgrounds and in which I was challenged to stretch my perspective.
Sometimes I was asked or even told to be quiet and to listen to someone else. It was uncomfortable. And I am better for it. It is horrifying that college campuses are teaching young people to think this way. Truly disgraceful and outrageous. So let me get this straight. You have been repeatedly talked over and shut out of classroom discussions at Dickinson to the extent where the only feasible solution is for all the white boys to be totally silenced from this point forward. All this has happened while presumably your professors sat idly by watching and letting it happen.
Did you ever bring this up with the administration or did they shut you down too? The claim has been made in the comments that blacks cannot be racists, although no support has been provided for the claim. If so, she is delusional. Articles like this will not unite, but segregate again the United Stated and. If the education at Dickinson were so constructive and instructive, it would have abandoned this angry social justice warrior brainwashed stance obviously indoctrinated in this young woman and replaced it with a simple phrase — judge them by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or their gender … this applies to all but is usurped by blacks and women trying to climb to a position of superiority through the ruse of equality.
How is anything this young misguided woman saying any different? As a white person myself, I would recommend that before commenting, all white people should look up the definition of white fragility as well as the difference between racism and prejudice. More importantly, consider reading the article for a second time instead of commenting at all. Her argument of new data or beliefs being passed among the white community. College should be somewhere people can come and be opened minded to different ideas we are not asking for you to relate we are asking you to listen to us as your laws have oppressed black and brown people for years, when you move into our communities and create laws to oppress our culture, obviously when you move into a community of color their culture is going to be different from what you are use to but the way you guys try to reshape these communities to reflect a community ideological to a white image.
I am not saying that white males opinions should not be valued, I am saying that their opinions over certain topics are less valuable than of people of color and it works vice versa. An opinion without experience of the topic is always going to matter less when there is a person of experience. Going back to these ignorant ideologies that are passed down I ask you to question your parents beliefs of the POC community as there has been preexisting articles which target the POC community.
Again, I want you people to question those beliefs of your parents which are racist and stereotypical against groups of race and I want to ask you to be open to different ideas. There is a mix of satire and sincerity that is confusing and invites multiple questions and interpretations. All white boys? All of the time? Maybe not. It is the behaviors that are really being targeted.